War on Terrorism Mafia Night 5

Patrick MacFarlane said:
If we lynch someone we at least have a 1/16 chance at killing the mafia, assuming there is just one. 

Also, if we kill an innocent, then we know who it is not which narrows the field. 

The fewer people we have, yes, the less the mafia has to kill to win but also the more information the innocents have to make their pick. 

So my conclusion is that it is stupid not to kill someone on day one because then we have a 0/16 chance of getting any information and the innocents are just closer to losing the game. 
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otoh we could kill someone that has important roles no?

 
Infinite Citadel said:
otoh we could kill someone that has important roles no?
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Generally when someone has a really important role and is going to imminently get lynched, they tell everything. If that role is mafia, they get forced into a corner and tangle themselves in a web of lies.

This game is a lot harder than that because the role isn't obvious. Like if the game has only one doctor, someone non-doctor who claims doctor outs themselves. If the real doctor is killed somehow, the fake doctor is obvious.

But there could be advanced roles like role stealer or whatever. I assume that the roles here are kinda weird because we can't mass role claim and don't get a list.

Piratemonkey said:
vote Alex Taylor because you're smart and I don't trust you because of it
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Tbh, I'd play dumb if I was scum. Especially since it's a first game and nobody knows my prior experience.

If I was the terrorist, it would be to my advantage to not give tips, etc.

 
Alex Taylor said:
Oh I assumed from this that if we lynched the wrong person, ISIS numbers would grow.

People can still voluntarily role claim, right?
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That is why I spelled it out since we're not all at the same levels.  My normal site mod would ignore that.  You can voluntarily role claim, but it would not be beneficial to do so.

 
Patrick MacFarlane said:
Im so confused. we need clarification because I was under the impression there was a set number of mafia/ISIS/killers whatever and it was the job of the fixed number of NATO nations to use their special powers/abilities to working conjunction with the neutrals/towns/innocents to determine who the mafia/ISIS/killers were and lynch them. 
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Mafia would want us to take the odds of mislynching 15/16... It would help them narrow down the field of people they need to kill. I say we don't lynch anybody today, if we kill somebody we get almost 0 information and just help out the mafia. Not worth to kill lynch anyone tonight. 

 
Vote Count:

IC: 3:  IC, Lordship, Robert E. Lee,

Robert E. Lee: 1. Natinator

Bear:  3. Woot, Japan, LSU Tiger Josh(permenant vote for voting the mod penalty)

Alex Taylor: 1. Cenna

Cenna: 1. Nerddragon

Natinator: 1. Dayz

LSU Tiger Josh: 1. Bear

GalaticManatee: 1. Alex Taylor

Alex Taylor: 1. Pirate Monkey

Need 10 votes for a lynch.

 
Patrick MacFarlane said:
If we lynch someone we at least have a 1/16 chance at killing the mafia, assuming there is just one. 

Also, if we kill an innocent, then we know who it is not which narrows the field. 

The fewer people we have, yes, the less the mafia has to kill to win but also the more information the innocents have to make their pick. 

So my conclusion is that it is stupid not to kill someone on day one because then we have a 0/16 chance of getting any information and the innocents are just closer to losing the game. 
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Vote Patrick MacFarlane because he seems very adamant about mislynching somebody. Why would he want us to run the risk of killing someone innocent other than to further his own agenda. 


 

 
Lord Darien said:
Vote Patrick MacFarlane because he seems very adamant about mislynching somebody. Why would he want us to run the risk of killing someone innocent other than to further his own agenda. 


 
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Yeah this seems quite convincing.

Change vote to Patrick MacFarlane

 
I unvote Bear and vote GalacticManatee because @GalacticManatee needs to come out of hiding.

PMFs argument for day 1 lynching doesn't sound unreasonable to me. To not lynch would be to effectively give the mafia an extra night.

 
Sorry, blame work. Been MIA lately.

Woot said:
I unvote Bear and vote GalacticManatee because @GalacticManatee needs to come out of hiding.

PMFs argument for day 1 lynching doesn't sound unreasonable to me. To not lynch would be to effectively give the mafia an extra night.
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Also, a random lynch could help but let's assume you kill a non-mafia member, was it worth it in the end? Mafia still win at the end of the day. Vote @Patrick MacFarlane for many of the reasons noted by nerddragon. 

 
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