Hiroshima 70th Anniversary

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Today marks 70 years since one of, the single deadliest terrorist attacks, the world has ever witnessed: The US atomic bombing of Hiroshima, Japan.

At least 90,000-166,000 civilians were murdered. BEFORE and AFTER the bomb was dropped at 8:15 am:

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Can't exactly show the human cost.

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I'm sure this attack was completely done to terrorize, and held no other significant historical purposes. Not like the Japanese had killed millions. Nobody ever complains about how many Nazis were killed, lmao. 

 
Vitaris Lugaritio said:
I'm sure this attack was completely done to terrorize, and held no other significant historical purposes. Not like the Japanese had killed millions. Nobody ever complains about how many Nazis were killed, lmao. 
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The people in Hiroshima were civilians, claiming that they killed millions is simply untrue, and comparing them to Nazi's is not only absurd but deeply offensive.

 
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Lol, You don't know much about the Japanese people from WWII. They were just as brainwashed. It is pretty bad that so many civilians were killed, but it ended the war, and in the end saved more lives. A lot more people would've died if we were forced to do a land invasion. And if you don't think they were crazy, people were jumping off cliffs so that they wouldn't be conquered by us. Plus, they continued to fight, even AFTER the first bomb was dropped, haha. It was pretty bad. 

 
I understand your point, but I agree with President Truman's decision, and it was a hard decision to make. You choose who to die in war situations, and in the end, the first bomb probably saved more lives than if it hadn't been dropped. I wish it was an easy conflict, where the Japanese would've found a peaceful resolution, but that never would of happened.

 
Vitaris Lugaritio said:
I understand your point, but I agree with President Truman's decision, and it was a hard decision to make. You choose who to die in war situations, and in the end, the first bomb probably saved more lives than if it hadn't been dropped. I wish it was an easy conflict, where the Japanese would've found a peaceful resolution, but that never would of happened.
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I am not here to argue with you about whether or not it was necessary, that question has been answered long ago, but continue to believe what you want if it makes you feel better. For those seeking the truth: http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v16/v16n3p-4_Weber.html

In a trenchant new book, The Decision to Drop the Atomic Bomb (Praeger, 1996), historian Dennis D. Wainstock concludes that the bombings were not only unnecessary, but were based on a vengeful policy that actually harmed American interests. He writes (pp. 124, 132):

... By April 1945, Japan's leaders realized that the war was lost. Their main stumbling block to surrender was the United States' insistence on unconditional surrender. They specifically needed to know whether the United States would allow Hirohito to remain on the throne. They feared that the United States would depose him, try him as a war criminal, or even execute him ...

Unconditional surrender was a policy of revenge, and it hurt America's national self-interest. It prolonged the war in both Europe and East Asia, and it helped to expand Soviet power in those areas.

General Douglas MacArthur, Commander of US Army forces in the Pacific, stated on numerous occasions before his death that the atomic bomb was completely unnecessary from a military point of view: "My staff was unanimous in believing that Japan was on the point of collapse and surrender."

General Curtis LeMay, who had pioneered precision bombing of Germany and Japan (and who later headed the Strategic Air Command and served as Air Force chief of staff), put it most succinctly: "The atomic bomb had nothing to do with the end of the war."


 
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Lol, that is what logical people would do. But the Japanese military wasn't logical, it was crazy. They would fight until death, and would kill themselves if they didn't die. They were never terrified, not even after an atomic bomb completely destroyed an entire city. Only after the second bomb, and the threat of more did they finally give in. And the US did drop pamphlets all over the cities, warning the citizens to leave. Anyone who stayed in the cities, died of their own doing. It is truly an awful event in history, but it was done because of the corrupted religious leaders in Japan, not the US.

 
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You should be questioning how many innocent civilians were killed in China and South East Asia. Japan was not the victim in this war. 

The estimate I have found estimate from 3 to 10 million civilians, not including their military personal. 

 
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I was trying to avoid posting such graphic images but you guys did so if anyone complains, it's certainly not my fault :P  

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Nuclear Weaponry is bad, but bombing a city of civilians is much more humane than raping women and children, beheading civilians in the street, and committing mass genocides. I am sorry, but I feel no empathy towards the Japanese of that time, especially those involved and supported the government at the time. Those citizens who CHOSE to remain in those cities that were being bombed are at their own fault. The US might have had other options, but I think it is ridiculous to think that it is merely "revenge" that we made those involved be punished for their crimes. Do you think Hitler should have been able to remain in power, and the Nazi's not receive any sort of punishment? I would agree with you if you were looking at the long-term negative effects of nuclear weaponry (most of which they didn't even truly know about at the time), but to say that this is just an American terrorist attack is beyond me.

Lol, I just wanted to prove that there is horrible pictures on both sides of this coin. You can't condemn the US for it's actions while ignoring the Japanese's actions.

 
"Terrorism - the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, especially for political purposes."

"Terrorist attack - a surprise attack involving the deliberate use of violence against civilians in the hope of attaining political or religious aims."

Weather you support it or not, the US atomic bombing of Hiroshima, was certainly a terrorist attack.

 
The Atomic bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki was truly a dark day in Human history. The cities were chosen to terrorize the Japanese people into surrendering, the cities were not military cities but civilian targets. Was it right for the US to destroy these 2 cities, would the Japs had surrendered even if the bombs weren't drop, would the world be a better place if the Atomic bomb was never created? These are the questions that the world should ask. It was a crime against humanity, but as we all know, history is written by the victors of war, so history might not see it as a crime.

Casualties and losses20 U.S., Dutch, British prisoners of warkilledHiroshima:

  • 20,000+ soldiers killed
  • 70,000–146,000 civilians killed
Nagasaki:

  • 39,000–80,000 killed
Total: 129,000–246,000+ killed
From Wiki.

 
Stujenske said:
Hmmm. Would you like ISIS to give you a suicide belt so you go in a subway in Tokyo and detonate it?
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That makes no sense. I love modern Japan, and historical Japan. Furthermore, I hold no ties to IS, terrorism, or anything of the like. 

Khilafah said:
"Terrorism - the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, especially for political purposes."

"Terrorist attack - a surprise attack involving the deliberate use of violence against civilians in the hope of attaining political or religious aims."

Weather you support it or not, the US atomic bombing of Hiroshima, was certainly a terrorist attack.
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In your definition of Terrorist Attack, you prove that it is in fact, not a terrorist attack. It was not a surprise attack, and all of the citizens were notified of the bombing well before the bombing took place. In all honesty, nobody could've died that day. The fact that those people remained there, even after being notified, even AFTER the first bombing took place, is of their own fault. Like I said before, there are other things to consider, but overall, I think that people hold too much of a grudge over this bombing. The Japanese would've done far worse if they had the oppurtunity, and they would not have warned the citizens before hand. Did they warn the Chinese before they came in and raped them and beheaded them? I highly doubt it. I agree that the bombs had a devastating effect, and it should stand to give reason to why they are never used again, but given the knoweledge and the circumstances that were in place at the time, I do not think that this was a highly malicious act, or one that was done completely without reason. Even given the evidence that there might have "possibly" been other resolutions or slightly more knowledge than is commonly accepted.

Augustus Caesar said:
The Atomic bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki was truly a dark day in Human history. The cities were chosen to terrorize the Japanese people into surrendering, the cities were not military cities but civilian targets. Was it right for the US to destroy these 2 cities, would the Japs had surrendered even if the bombs weren't drop, would the world be a better place if the Atomic bomb was never created? These are the questions that the world should ask. It was a crime against humanity, but as we all know, history is written by the victors of war, so history might not see it as a crime.

Casualties and losses20 U.S., Dutch, British prisoners of warkilledHiroshima:

  • 20,000+ soldiers killed
  • 70,000–146,000 civilians killed
Nagasaki:

  • 39,000–80,000 killed
Total: 129,000–246,000+ killed
From Wiki.
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The Japanese commited Genocide against 3-10 million Chinese and South-East Asian citizens. The causalities they received are minuscule in comparison.

Again though, I am not saying that the bombing was a fantastic thing, of course it was terrible. But I do believe that it was not unwarranted. And yes, I do agree that the world would be a far better place without nuclear weaponry, but honestly it was only a matter of time. We wouldn't have a lot of our advanced scientific equipment without the nuclear technology that was developed during that time.

 
Look, Trueman wasn't an idiot, he was the President. He weighed his options, and with all of the information available to him, made the call that would end the war quicker, saving millions more than the 150k dead in Nagasaki/Hiroshima.

I love Japan, I love anime, and I love all of their culture. But check this out: What they did to the Chinese? The bombing of Pearl Harbor? This was coming to them, and the citizens were even warned, but because they believed the Emperor to be a God, decided to stay in the cities and well, you know the rest.

 
What the Japanese did during World War II to Chinese citizens and others, are some of the worst acts ever committed against human beings. Nanking, testing chemical warfare tactics on innocent civilians, boiling infants alive and let's not forget Unit 731 (who's members the Americans pardoned in return for what they had learned,  while the Soviets prosecuted the ones they captured for war crimes). They did a lot of, terrible, terrible things, but that doesn't justify Hiroshima or Nagasaki. What the Japanese did was wrong, dropping the nukes on Japan was wrong as well, and two wrongs don't make a right. Neither should have happened, both are a tragedy.

 
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