07/06/19 - Splitting the bill

On a first date would you...

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I always paid for everything when I was with a woman on a date.  Be a man, pay the bill.  She's gracing you with her presence so you better pay it back because all men are pigs (claim you aren't, then think about what you do each day and you will realize you actually are) who don't deserve anything we are given.  Women only need men for the 2.2 sperms the average woman wants/gets (or so - it depends where you live I guess).  Anyway, pay the bill, maybe you'll be able to give her some of what she wants some day...  certainly a better chance if you pay than you demand you split or demand she pays for it.

 
RedFive said:
I always paid for everything when I was with a woman on a date.  Be a man, pay the bill.  She's gracing you with her presence so you better pay it back because all men are pigs (claim you aren't, then think about what you do each day and you will realize you actually are) who don't deserve anything we are given.  Women only need men for the 2.2 sperms the average woman wants/gets (or so - it depends where you live I guess).  Anyway, pay the bill, maybe you'll be able to give her some of what she wants some day...  certainly a better chance if you pay than you demand you split or demand she pays for it.
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Aren't you married?

 
Micchan said:
Aren't you married?
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Yes...  but that is why I said "I always paid".  That is past tense in case you didn't know.  Meaning, before now...  and in my case, before I was married and dated other women, or even the women who became my wife.

I always paid and I think a man should always pay when on a date with a woman.  As a woman, if a man doesn't pay, take the little cost you have to pay for dinner or whatever you are doing, and chalk that up to a cheap lesson that he isn't worth it.

 
I only ever dated 3 people.  2 of them asked me out.  Ive always paid, but do people's opinions change depending on who asked who on the date?

 
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RedFive said:
I always paid and I think a man should always pay when on a date with a woman.  As a woman, if a man doesn't pay, take the little cost you have to pay for dinner or whatever you are doing, and chalk that up to a cheap lesson that he isn't worth it.
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What a sad view of the world

There are things that lose all their value when you give them a piece, if a woman judges you by how much money you are willing to spend for her then she isn't worth

 
RedFive said:
I always paid for everything when I was with a woman on a date.  Be a man, pay the bill.  She's gracing you with her presence so you better pay it back because all men are pigs (claim you aren't, then think about what you do each day and you will realize you actually are) who don't deserve anything we are given.  Women only need men for the 2.2 sperms the average woman wants/gets (or so - it depends where you live I guess).  Anyway, pay the bill, maybe you'll be able to give her some of what she wants some day...  certainly a better chance if you pay than you demand you split or demand she pays for it.
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I always offer to pay the bill, however if your date insists on paying half it is unseemly to refuse and you should accept their offer graciously.

now I am married it doesn’t matter as it’s a joint account and Mrs modi is the money maker 😂 

 
I'm surprised so many people would take the full bill on the *first* date. Like it makes sense to start paying the complete bill if you continue to go out with the person, but it doesn't make much sense to do on the first date. It might make even more sense to just go somewhere free, like on a walk in the park -- and if you're feeling fancy, a picnic that is cheap (and you technically pay for).

This also depends on the type of date, for me. For example, if I were to got out in a group date, then it makes sense that everyone takes their share. On a single date, would it seem logical to go somewhere fancy? No. (But depends on if you're trying to impress them). However, are you going to a movie and a normal restaurant? Here, I would see if you could split it to one paying for the movie and the other for the meal. It all comes down to who it is, where it's at, and the type of memory you want to leave. (If the date isn't that good, just split the bill because you don't expect another)

Part if it comes back to what Soj and RedFive said, if you asked the girl out, it makes sense. However, if she asked you, what would happen? I would try to split it. Then if there is another date, then it makes more sense to start paying the entire thing.

It really comes down to who it's with, where it's out, how much money you have, and what type of memory you want to leave with the other person.

But I'm glad to see that no one expects to make the other one pay in full. If you ask them out it wouldn't be fair. 

(p.s. coming from the guy that never has, or wants, or probably will, go on a date)

 
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Micchan said:
What a sad view of the world

There are things that lose all their value when you give them a piece, if a woman judges you by how much money you are willing to spend for her then she isn't worth
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If a man asks a woman out, and then demands a split?  Yeah, he ain't worth it.  I will stand by that forever.

Frankly, I would argue the same thing if a woman asks a man on a date because the woman should say she wants to pay the bill if she asks him out.  Now, in either instance, regardless of gender, I think it is entirely fair to offer to pay for your own meal or split the bill (as long as the meals are close - imagine demanding to split when one gets a salad and the other gets the truffle covered sirloin with a side dish of shrimp - lmao).  That being said, if you were the one who wanted to go on the date in the first place, you should say you will pay for the whole bill at least on the first date (assuming they aren't the one getting the truffle covered sirloin with a side dish of shrimp - lmao).  This is a matter of principle in my perspective.

Why?  In the case of a man asking a woman out (which is most often what I saw or see),  I believe the man should always pay the bill for yourself and the woman you are dating.  First off, because you were the one who wanted to do the date in the first place.  Secondly, because damn it, I'm a provider, and I should show my perspective mate that I am the provider she wants to be with... and one little way to do that, is to pay another $25 or whatever it is for your date's bill.  It may not be a big thing, but it is something that can come in to play when dating.

Of course, this all changes potentially if it isn't a man asking a woman out.  I'm super curious what happens what happens when a woman asks a man out, or a woman asks a woman out, or a man asks a man out...  I don't know what that looks like, not what it should look like.  But I stand firm when a man asks a woman out, he pays the fucking bill.  Judge me if you want for that stance, but certainly you should judge a man if a man doesn't pay the bill when asking a woman out.

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