US Invasion of Iraq Justified?

Was the US invasion of Iraq justified?

  • Yes

    Votes: 1 4.8%

  • No

    Votes: 18 85.7%

  • I don't know brah / other

    Votes: 2 9.5%
  • Total voters
    21
Ryan Miller

Ryan Miller

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Some Background​

During the first couple years in the 2000s, the United States was under threat by terrorists abroad. After the 9/11 attacks on the World Trade Centers (located in New York, United States where around 3000 died), the United States, under the Bush Administration, declared the War on Terror. The purpose was to keep Americans safe from terrorists by declaring war on countries where terrorists inhabit. In response to the 9/11 attacks, the United States declared war on the Taliban. The Taliban where in Afghanistan at the time. In 2003, the United States declared war on Iraq for the allegations that they had stored weapons of mass destruction (which were illegal to posses according to UN law). It's almost March 20, when the United States declared war on Iraq, and the effects are clear today. Let's discuss about this.

Arguments (No)​

Now, I normally don't start things off like this, but let's begin as to why people wouldn't think that the US invasion of Iraq wasn't justified. First, even though the invasion was a military win, it will later prove to be a political failure. The invasion caused the destabilization of the Middle East. Many Iraqis became angry because they've lost their jobs, live of a loved one, etc due to the war. This has lead to the rise of ISIS because the destruction of the Iraqi military and the withdrawal of American troops in 2011.

Not to mention that this was by far the most ironic thing a country has done. What the US was trying to do was eradicate terrorists from the world. A terrorist is defined as "a person who uses unlawful violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims". Which is ironic since the US has declared war on Iraq that was considered illegal according to the UN. Once again, pointing out that the invasion lead to the destabilization of the Iraqi government and military.

Finally, once the United States finally won the war and established a much more democratic government, the US found no WMDs (acronym for weapons of mass destruction). This means that the US declared a war on a nation under a false statement that resulted in not only deaths of innocent Iraqis for no good reason, but also the lives of American soldiers who fought in the war. This was just a waste of human life that could've been avoided.

Argument (Yes)​

One reason as to why the Iraq war was justified was because the United States couldn't tell whether or not the Iraqi government was actually storing WMDs. The US government wouldn't surely have made this decision with the information they have right now. Basically, you can't blame it on the United States because we just couldn't tell.

In addition, the US wanted to spread democracy in the Middle East because at the time, Iraq was under the rule of the dictator, Saddam Hussein. The government was very oppressive to its people and the United States wanted to spread democracy there. Basically, spread democracy.

Wrapping things up...​

So, what do you think. Do you think that the US invasion of Iraq was justified because the government just didn't had enough information to tell if Iraq was storing WMDs and to spread democracy in the Middle East. Or was it not justified because it led to the destabilization of the Middle East, the rise of ISIS, unlawful declaration of war, and the irony in the US's endeavor to stop terrorists abroad.

 
ok theres a lot of brown stuff that hit the fan over the years based on the false premise of the government cover story of what happened on 9/11.  That said and sticking to the topic of the post (because i could go on and on for hours about 9/11 inspired actions ). No the invasion of Iraq was not justified. It was based on the premise of WMD's that not even the government believed. It WAS part of an already designed intelligence community objective however that the government has been following lock stock and barrel...

What did it accomplish exactly, Mr. Bush, standing in front of a "Mission Accomplished" banner on an aircraft carrier.... did you find the wmds? no. Did you remove an unstable leader and install a stable democratic government? no Are the people of Iraq better off now than they were before your actions? hell no.

The US should be brought before the UN and the world court and be held accountable for their invasions of other nations, the murder of countless innocents, the destruction of a large swath of the middle east, the war crimes committ3ed in and around Iraq and other middle eastern countries, the illegal torture of "named combatants" against the rules of the Geneva convention on the treatment of prisoners of war, the violations of US law against indefinite incarceration without charges being files, the right of an accused to a speedy trial, the treatment of pretrial incarcerated people and many other laws.

History is always written by the victors, and the US will not always be those victors who write in the history books only the things that make them look good.. hundreds of years from now when another nation or group of nations are in control, history will show the years following 9/11 and the actions taken by the US as some if not THE darkest moments in human history

 
once again, short term ... when you look at the scope of current and recent US atrocities worldwide, there can be no question it is incomparible with anything else in history

 
People often look at some of the horrors of the past committed by people and governments and ask how could that happen... we would never allow such things in modern civilized society but they are so blind in their own apathy as they dont see atrocities like those and much worse happening under their watch and they do nothing

 
Dabawss said:
People often look at some of the horrors of the past committed by people and governments and ask how could that happen... we would never allow such things in modern civilized society but they are so blind in their own apathy as they dont see atrocities like those and much worse happening under their watch and they do nothing
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Define short term, since you said The Holocaust was short term, but it led to the state of Israel. Which can be said is one of the reasons this is happening with Iraq.

 
Robert E Lee said:
Define short term, since you said The Holocaust was short term, but it led to the state of Israel. Which can be said is one of the reasons this is happening with Iraq.
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the holocaust lasted 12 years... the current US reign ofg terror has already been going on for 16 years and is still gaining strength

 
Robert E Lee said:
Which is localized to the Middle East.
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nope. the US has hostile actions in the middle east, in Somalia, in Europe where they are leading the build up of aggressive and hostile forces on the Russian border, in China where they are aggressively inserting themselves into Asian politics, need i continue?

 
Dabawss said:
nope. the US has hostile actions in the middle east, in Somalia, in Europe where they are leading the build up of aggressive and hostile forces on the Russian border, in China where they are aggressively inserting themselves into Asian politics, need i continue?
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I don't even know if you can continue. Your point about this being THE darkest moment in Human History is a fallacy.

 
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